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	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Denver Larry</title>
		<link>http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2006/06/second-pine#comment-56921</link>
		<dc:creator>Denver Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear that. I am afraid that is just a sign of the times.

In Denver, The 1401 Lawrence Project was similar (sans the hotel) and had similar reservation number but ultimately Great West pulled the plug this summer. Right now, Ritz-Carlton has a new Condo-Tel going but sales are slow. It is a conversion of a former Embassy Suites. Fortunately, there are fewer units.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear that. I am afraid that is just a sign of the times.</p>
<p>In Denver, The 1401 Lawrence Project was similar (sans the hotel) and had similar reservation number but ultimately Great West pulled the plug this summer. Right now, Ritz-Carlton has a new Condo-Tel going but sales are slow. It is a conversion of a former Embassy Suites. Fortunately, there are fewer units.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben_Kakimoto</title>
		<link>http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2006/06/second-pine#comment-52751</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben_Kakimoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info....I  drove by on the way home and most of the signage were gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info&#8230;.I  drove by on the way home and most of the signage were gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2006/06/second-pine#comment-52725</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All signage is coming down from this project.  Hope Starwood develops this site.  Would be nice if they also included the Macy's parking garage.  Downtown is so under retailed that another vertical mall like Pacific Place could be included in any hotel project.  But this is probably unlikely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All signage is coming down from this project.  Hope Starwood develops this site.  Would be nice if they also included the Macy&#8217;s parking garage.  Downtown is so under retailed that another vertical mall like Pacific Place could be included in any hotel project.  But this is probably unlikely.</p>
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		<title>By: klt</title>
		<link>http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2006/06/second-pine#comment-39748</link>
		<dc:creator>klt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly the project is fubar as was their marketing piece. .If late-summer is a no-go, hole will be open during rain season adding 100k's in geotech.  Where are all those that proclaimed this was moving ahead? What's the story?

*hears birds chirping*

Hopefully Room and Board will still open under garage.  

http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2006/06/second-pine#comment-39609</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly the project is fubar as was their marketing piece. .If late-summer is a no-go, hole will be open during rain season adding 100k&#8217;s in geotech.  Where are all those that proclaimed this was moving ahead? What&#8217;s the story?</p>
<p>*hears birds chirping*</p>
<p>Hopefully Room and Board will still open under garage.  </p>
<p><a href="http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2006/06/second-pine#comment-39609" rel="nofollow">http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2006/06/second-pine#comment-39609</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben_Kakimoto</title>
		<link>http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2006/06/second-pine#comment-39610</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben_Kakimoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...for the first redesign they said they had 100 reservations on the 110 CitySuites and thus they were increasing the number of those to 176.  Now, they're dropping it down to 44?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;for the first redesign they said they had 100 reservations on the 110 CitySuites and thus they were increasing the number of those to 176.  Now, they&#8217;re dropping it down to 44?!?</p>
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		<title>By: klt</title>
		<link>http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2006/06/second-pine#comment-39609</link>
		<dc:creator>klt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Project is dead...and seemingly truly effd up.  Check DJC for kid friendly version of whats going on...or rather not going on.  Funny first delay was to add MORE hotel condo units was it not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Project is dead&#8230;and seemingly truly effd up.  Check DJC for kid friendly version of whats going on&#8230;or rather not going on.  Funny first delay was to add MORE hotel condo units was it not?</p>
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		<title>By: The MD</title>
		<link>http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2006/06/second-pine#comment-38742</link>
		<dc:creator>The MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben_Kakimoto,

Thanks for the input.  We've been considering all three of those communities to buy a home, and I have a feeling that interiors of '1' will actually be nicer and more "put together" than Four Seasons or 1521 when it is completed.  Our concern was with the potential view loss at '1,' which you addressed, and I completely agree with you.  Decisions, decisions.  I feel Four Seasons has amazing views, but you pay for it.  1521 is a nice "all around" project, meaning it has some nice views and some nice interior finishes, but no "true" outdoor spaces, and "1" will have by far the best interiors, but some spotty views depending where one is in the building.  

Albert,

As for prices in Seattle, yes, it is costly.  Ridiculous? I don't feel it is ridiculous for what one gets.  $1200-$1300 average in New York buys one an AVERAGE condo.  Where that buys a person a VERY nice condo here in Seattle.  Besides, who really wants to LIVE in NYC.  Its a nice place to visit, and an awful place to stay long-term.  I lived there for quite a while.

Seattle is a much nicer city with more recreational activities, better natural scenery, a better climate, a better pace, and just more accessible overall, in my opinion.  Actually, come to think of it, Seattle is a steal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben_Kakimoto,</p>
<p>Thanks for the input.  We&#8217;ve been considering all three of those communities to buy a home, and I have a feeling that interiors of &#8216;1&#8242; will actually be nicer and more &#8220;put together&#8221; than Four Seasons or 1521 when it is completed.  Our concern was with the potential view loss at &#8216;1,&#8217; which you addressed, and I completely agree with you.  Decisions, decisions.  I feel Four Seasons has amazing views, but you pay for it.  1521 is a nice &#8220;all around&#8221; project, meaning it has some nice views and some nice interior finishes, but no &#8220;true&#8221; outdoor spaces, and &#8220;1&#8243; will have by far the best interiors, but some spotty views depending where one is in the building.  </p>
<p>Albert,</p>
<p>As for prices in Seattle, yes, it is costly.  Ridiculous? I don&#8217;t feel it is ridiculous for what one gets.  $1200-$1300 average in New York buys one an AVERAGE condo.  Where that buys a person a VERY nice condo here in Seattle.  Besides, who really wants to LIVE in NYC.  Its a nice place to visit, and an awful place to stay long-term.  I lived there for quite a while.</p>
<p>Seattle is a much nicer city with more recreational activities, better natural scenery, a better climate, a better pace, and just more accessible overall, in my opinion.  Actually, come to think of it, Seattle is a steal!</p>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
		<link>http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2006/06/second-pine#comment-38705</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or is Downtown Seattle's price per sq foot is ridiculous!? I think it's crazy how some of these projects are much more expensive than Manhattan prices of $1200-1300 avg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or is Downtown Seattle&#8217;s price per sq foot is ridiculous!? I think it&#8217;s crazy how some of these projects are much more expensive than Manhattan prices of $1200-1300 avg.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben_Kakimoto</title>
		<link>http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2006/06/second-pine#comment-38697</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben_Kakimoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All three of these are among the most upscale condo projects in the city.  The Four Seasons is by far the most exclusive and expensive starting at $2,000 per square foot.  However, by offer price, 1 Hotel tops the Four Seasons with an $11.7 million penthouse townhome...about $1,700 per square foot.  

In terms of amenities, 1 Hotel and the Four Seasons will be similar and residents will have access to the hotel amenities as well.  1521 is solely a condominium tower.

As far as views, the Four Seasons and 1521 offers the best of the three.  All of the Four Seasons West-facing units have unobstructed views of Elliott Bay and has air rights to the South (over the Lusty Lady).  1521 has air rights to protect some of its views as well.

1 Hotel will have excellent views, but on the upper floors.  However, because of its location further East than the others, potentially, its views will change with the pending development of Candela and the 2nd &#038; Virginia/Stewart towers. The City Suites level homes will mostly have in-city, urban views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All three of these are among the most upscale condo projects in the city.  The Four Seasons is by far the most exclusive and expensive starting at $2,000 per square foot.  However, by offer price, 1 Hotel tops the Four Seasons with an $11.7 million penthouse townhome&#8230;about $1,700 per square foot.  </p>
<p>In terms of amenities, 1 Hotel and the Four Seasons will be similar and residents will have access to the hotel amenities as well.  1521 is solely a condominium tower.</p>
<p>As far as views, the Four Seasons and 1521 offers the best of the three.  All of the Four Seasons West-facing units have unobstructed views of Elliott Bay and has air rights to the South (over the Lusty Lady).  1521 has air rights to protect some of its views as well.</p>
<p>1 Hotel will have excellent views, but on the upper floors.  However, because of its location further East than the others, potentially, its views will change with the pending development of Candela and the 2nd &#038; Virginia/Stewart towers. The City Suites level homes will mostly have in-city, urban views.</p>
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		<title>By: The MD</title>
		<link>http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2006/06/second-pine#comment-38678</link>
		<dc:creator>The MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do any of you have any more information how this project compares to the likes of Four Seasons or 1521 when comparing the condos?  Is this project nicer?  Is it lower end?  What about views and pricing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do any of you have any more information how this project compares to the likes of Four Seasons or 1521 when comparing the condos?  Is this project nicer?  Is it lower end?  What about views and pricing?</p>
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